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Monday, February 2, 2009
Robert Hewitt Wolfe At The Write Environment Live!
Mood:  caffeinated
Topic: TV Shows

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Robert Hewitt Wolfe

At The Write Environment Live!

 

Time and Place

Date:

Saturday, February 7, 2009

Time:

11:00am - 12:00pm

Location:

The Writer Store

Street:

2040 Westwood Blvd, Westwood, CA

A Special Interview With This Writer / Executive Producer of Such Shows As:

Star Trek: DS9, The 4400, Gene Roddenberry's Andromeda, and The Dresden Files!

Click Here to see our current listed Comics, Books, and Graphic Novels!  Jeffrey Berman sent us an announcement about this upcoming show...  Which is actually a live interview with Robert Hewitt Wolfe, who was the Writer/Executive producer of several successful TV series, including Star Trek; Deep Space Nine, Gene Roddenberry’s Andromeda, The 4400 and The Dresden Files!

Long time Blog readers of ours will know of our love of The 4400 series, of which we have blogged about several times before, (click here). 

The show will be hosted by Jeffrey Berman, with the live interview starting at 11am on February 7th at The Writers Store in Westwood California. Major details for this event are posted below the Header Title for this blog post. For more information on the event please contact the Writers Store at 866-229-7483*.

(* PLEASE NOTE: Jeffrey Berman just messaged me the following tonight 02-02-09 at 6:47 pm:

"Just a quick note to everyone who checked the maybe box for this weeks live taping of The Write Environment with Robert Hewitt Wolfe.

Seating is limited to about 35 with another 35 for standing room only, so if you think you might be attending I'd suggest you make your reservations now.

You can do so on Facebook or by calling The Writers Store at 866.229.7843.

Thank you for all your support and I hope to see you there." )
 

As for the guest's bio... Robert Hewitt Wolfe graduated UCLA in California, receiving a bachelor's degree in Film and Television and also a MFA in Screenwriting. It was his very first screenplay, Paper Dragons, that placed second in the prestigious Goldwyn awards!  With that prize money Robert purchased his first computer. So it was at this point he decided to try and make himself a career in showiz.

It took a little while, but when he sold the story For A Fistful of Datas to the series Star Trek: The Next Generation that was his breakthrough. His writing of the screenplay for that episode secured him a place in the creative staff of the series Star Trek: Deep Space Nine, when that series made its debut in the following year. Since then he has gone on to write/produce episodes for The 4400, The Dresden Files, and more...

Host Jeffrey Berman’s first spec script was purchased by Brian Grazer and Ron Howard of Imagine Films. Since that time he has written feature film projects for Universal Studios, Paramount Pictures and The Walt Disney Studio, as well as several independent film companies. His most recent script, Young Robin Hood, co-written with Tony Caballero, has been optioned by Dreambig Entertainment.

In the television market, Jeffrey has co-written and sold several MOWs including The J.K Rowling bio-pic for NBC television and The Last Rainmaker for Hallmark.

Our blog readers can view more about Jeffrey and The Write Envrionment by going to:

www.thewriteenvironment.com

There you will find that Jeffrey already has conducted six other live interviews with:

Joss Whedon (Buffy the Vampire Slayer, Angel, Dollhouse)

Damon Lindelof (Lost)

Tim Kring (Heroes)

Sam Simon (The Simpsons)

Phil Rosenthal (Everybody Loves Raymond)

Doug Ellin (Entourage)

I want to thank Jeffrey for bringing his show information to us! Even though we are just two hours south of Westwood, I had not heard of his Live Interview Shows before this, and look forward to attending his presentations in the future. 

For those of you that are new to our blog today, we have an ongoing online 'Comic Con and Pop Culture Convention' ourselves here at "Make It So Marketing Inc.", what with our daily blog posts,  and new listings of items for sale in our online eBay Featured Store

Thanks for reading this blog post today, and please join us again for more!  BTW, besides blogging, we have over 479 Reviews that Tina and I have placed in our eBay Reviews Section. Just click here to see our latest reviews!

Would you believe that our Blog is close to greeting its' 325,000th visitor?!   Thanks again to all of YOU reading our current and archived blog posts!
~ Michael (and Tina)
        
Click Here to see our World !             

Note From Make It So Marketing:

To the left is a photo of Michael at the 2008 SDCC - San Diego Comic Convention International. Click that photo to see Tina and Michael's 'Our World' page!
                 
Each comic / comics book. Graphic Novels or magazine in our eBay Featured Store is individually graded by Michael, inventoried, priced, bagged and boarded, before being listed for sale!    
               
We attend several  Pop Culture Conventions and Comic Cons during the year to replenish our comic books and other pop culture inventory for resale!  
               
If you don't see what you are looking for, feel free to email us a 'want list' and if in stock, we'll place it in our eBay Featured Store 'Just for You' to purchase!

 

Now Celebrating the 10th Year On The Web!

"Hammering Out the Web
For You Since May 12th, 1998!"

Click Here to see Michael's 1970's memories of setting up at the SDCC! 

Note: If you work in the comic book industry or other pop culture productions, you are welcome to email us press releases, news items, and updates that you feel would be of interest to our blog readers. Including YOUR own works!

To mail printed items to us for review, send to:

Make It So Marketing Inc
PO Box 130653
Carlsbad, CA 92013

   
     

 

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Sunday, February 1, 2009
Neil... An Original Graphic Novel
Mood:  caffeinated
Topic: Comic Books - New

 

 

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"Neil"

An Original Graphic Novel In Progress

By

Jon Ascher

An Invitation To Check Out The Progress Of This  Graphic Novel Online!

Click Here to see our current listed Comics, Books, and Graphic Novels!  Jon Ascher is a Portland, Oregon based illustrator and graphic designer...  His latest creative work was brought to my attention by Jess Jinkies, who sent me the links to both his web site and his 'Making of the Neil GN' video.  I viewed the pages shown on his web site and viewed the video...  and am sharing both with our blog readers to view! 

The video at the above right of this blog post shows Jon verbally portraying what he is painting in his graphic novel that is in progress.  The video is a little long with some gaps in the filming, but you will get what is he attempting to convey in his artwork by watching it. You will also get part of the theme of the book via the video, but you should read Jon's notes on his web site.

Our blog readers can view the pages he has up at his web site for FREE by going to  www.jonascher.com right now!

I want to thank Jess Jinkies for bringing this project to my attention. The work is not yet completed which is why there is a good looking interior page shown at the top left instead of the cover...

That is also why this blog post is a 'mention' instead of a 'review' at this time.

I'll leave it to Jess and / or Jon to follow up with me as to when this GN will be ready for pre-publication review.... 

(Please Note: A complimentary hard copy for this mention was not provided by the creator as it is in online format only at this time.)

 

For those of you that are new to our blog today, we have an ongoing online 'Comic Con and Pop Culture Convention' ourselves here at "Make It So Marketing Inc.", what with our daily blog posts,  and new listings of items for sale in our online eBay Featured Store

Thanks for reading this blog post today, and please join us again for more!  BTW, besides blogging, we have over 479 Reviews that Tina and I have placed in our eBay Reviews Section. Just click here to see our latest reviews!

Would you believe that our Blog has greeted its' 324,000th visitor last night??   Thanks again to all of YOU reading our current and archived blog posts!
 
~ Michael (and Tina)
        
Click Here to see our World !             

Note From Make It So Marketing:

To the left is a photo of Michael and Tina at the 2007 SDCC - San Diego Comic Convention International. Click that photo to see 'Our World'!
                 
Each comic / comics book. Graphic Novels or magazine in our eBay Featured Store is individually graded by Michael, inventoried, priced, bagged and boarded, before being listed for sale!    
               
We attend several  Pop Culture Conventions and Comic Cons during the year to replenish our comic books and other pop culture inventory for resale!  
               
If you don't see what you are looking for, feel free to email us a 'want list' and if in stock, we'll place it in our eBay Featured Store 'Just for You' to purchase!

 

Now Celebrating the 10th Year On The Web!

"Hammering Out the Web
For You Since May 12th, 1998!"

Click Here to see Michael's 1970's memories of setting up at the SDCC! 

Note: If you work in the comic book industry or other pop culture productions, you are welcome to email us press releases, news items, and updates that you feel would be of interest to our blog readers. Including YOUR own works!

To mail printed items to us for review, send to:

Make It So Marketing Inc
PO Box 130653
Carlsbad, CA 92013

   
     

 

Thank You For Being One Of This Blog's

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Saturday, January 31, 2009
The FAT Man... An Online Serialized Graphic Novel!
Mood:  caffeinated
Topic: Comic Books - New

 

 

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The

FAT

Man

 

An Online Serialized Graphic Novel!

By Thomas Cochrane and Alan Tanner!

Click Here to see our current listed Comics, Books, and Graphic Novels!  Thomas Cochrane sent me the link to his online serialized graphic novel.  Along with Alan Tanner, the artist for this project, Thomas is weaving a story that has several elements that I enjoy in books and on TV.

First off, Thomas Cochrane is a Scottish artist and writer.  "The Fat Man" is his first graphic novel.  Thematic inspiration for this GN he says comes from "such diverse sources of 'TinTin', 'The Avengers', and a fascination with the concept of time travel".

Alan Tanner is a veteran illustrator and designer. He has worked on covers for 'Time Out' and the infamous 'Oz Magazine'. He has also created many illustrations for the 'Radio Times'. Additionally he has worked for CBS and Island for several record covers.

This graphic novel has a new chapter presented every month. The 9th chapter's splash page is presented at the top of this blog post to get an immediate idea of the artwork. I  believe that it is not the 'final' version of that page.  As of this blog post the online story had not reached that chapter as of yet...

So what is the story about? Well, I'll just print what the writer says about it:

"The story centres on the mysterious 'Tegel Project', responsible for the death of millions, which threatens the very core of civilisation. Betrayed by MI5, the Fat Man finds himself caught between the blazing guns of would-be assassins and the blood-red lips of silent movie star Louise Brooks.

Unable to trust anyone and faced with a series of unpalatable choices, he careers madly along the arch of time on the seemingly impossible mission of keeping himself and his lover alive..."

I am told that "The Fat Man" is a charity project with sponsorship, which is why our blog readers can view it online for Free.  Additionally, "The more eyes on the web site, the more the charity can raise," Thomas explained in his message to me.

The graphic novel is presented in a format that uses the 'My eBook' reader. It is interesting that as you 'turn' the pages, you hear the sound of pages turning.  I did find the page turner mechanism a little hard to use, but that is the software's fault, not of the writer/artist team.

There is a 'promo movie video' for this graphic novel, as well as several 'wallpapers' for your computer's desktop at the web site should this serialized project grab your interest!

The serialized online graphic novel and the wallpapers can be viewed at:

www.the-fat-man.co.uk

After viewing the graphic novel, and you find yourself interested in knowing more about this work, you are welcome to join The Fat Man group if you are a Facebook member at:

www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=21043026251&ref=mf

For myself, I know that I will continue reading this story. Except for a few curse words, the story so far is of a PG-13 rating. I am a 'sucker' for well written time travel stories, as seen by my blog posts so far on 'Life On Mars', 'Journeyman', 'Quantum Leap', and the like.  This GN 'The Fat Man' has my interest.  I have joined the FaceBook Group to be reminded when the next chapter is online. Should you enjoy the story as published so far online, I would suggest doing the same!

(Please Note: A complimentary hard copy for this mention / review was not provided by the creator as it is in online format only.)

For those of you that are new to our blog today, we have an ongoing online 'Comic Con and Pop Culture Convention' ourselves here at "Make It So Marketing Inc.", what with our daily blog posts,  and new listings of items for sale in our online eBay Featured Store

Thanks for reading this blog post today, and please join us again for more!  BTW, besides blogging, we have over 479 Reviews that Tina and I have placed in our eBay Reviews Section. Just click here to see our latest reviews!

Would you believe that our Blog has greeted its' 323,000th visitor this week??   Thanks again to all of YOU reading our current and archived blog posts!
 
~ Michael (and Tina)
        
Click Here to see our World !             

Note From Make It So Marketing:

To the left is a photo of Michael and Tina at the 2007 SDCC - San Diego Comic Convention International. Click that photo to see 'Our World'!
                 
Each comic / comics book. Graphic Novels or magazine in our eBay Featured Store is individually graded by Michael, inventoried, priced, bagged and boarded, before being listed for sale!    
               
We attend several  Pop Culture Conventions and Comic Cons during the year to replenish our comic books and other pop culture inventory for resale!  
               
If you don't see what you are looking for, feel free to email us a 'want list' and if in stock, we'll place it in our eBay Featured Store 'Just for You' to purchase!

 

Now Celebrating the 10th Year On The Web!

"Hammering Out the Web
For You Since May 12th, 1998!"

Click Here to see our Reviews on Comics, TPBs, Graphic Novels, & DVDs! 

Note: If you work in the comic book industry or other pop culture productions, you are welcome to email us press releases, news items, and updates that you feel would be of interest to our blog readers. Including YOUR own works!

To mail printed items to us for review, send to:

Make It So Marketing Inc
PO Box 130653
Carlsbad, CA 92013

   
     

 

Thank You For Being One Of This Blog's

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If you are a Facebook member and want to join my Facebook Network, feel free to send a 'friend request' to 'Michael D Hamersky'.

 


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Friday, January 30, 2009
Steve Scott Signs at Illustration House February 5th!
Mood:  caffeinated
Topic: Comic Book Artists

 

 

Click here to see our current listings of Graphic Novels, Comics, Magazines, and other Pop Culture Items, some by Michael Golden, Mark Texeira, and Steve Scott!

 

   

Steve Scott

Signs at Illustration House February 5th, 2009!

Along With Michael Golden and Mark Texeira!

Click Here to see our current listed Comics, Books, and Graphic Novels, some by Mark Texeira, Michael Golden and Steve Scott!  Steve Scott, (pictured at left), will be at this Manhattan based gallery...  Along with Michael Golden and Mark Texeira, courtesy of Eva Ink Artist Group and Illustration House, right before the beginning of the 2009 NYCC that starts February 6th!

Illustration House opens their "Astounding Art" Exhibition and Sale with a bang by having three of the featured creators from "Astounding ARt" on site February 5th, from 5 - 7 PM.

Eva Ink Artists Group is inviting you to join creators Michael Golden, Mark Texeira and Steve Scott by viewing original art, have books signed, and just hang out and mingle at one of the most prestigious galleries in Manhattan!

I have blogged about Mark Texeira being one of the 'Guests of Honor' at the upcoming 2009 NYCC, (click here), and about Michael Golden attending an earlier convention, (click here).

I haven't mentioned Steve Scott before though... Steve is the newest addition to Eva Ink Artist Group, but he certainly is not new to the comics field!

You probably have seen his work for the hit  "Smallville" TV show if you are a fan of that series.  He is also known for his sequential artwork for "New Warriors," "Hourman," "JLA," "She-Hulk," and "Indiana Jones"!

Additionally Steve has the distinction of providing some of the art for the movie tie-ins to "Batman: Dark Knight," featuring Heath Ledger's unforgettable Joker role.  

"Astounding Art" also include works by John Buscema, Jeff Jones, J. Scott Campbell, Gene Colan, Paul Gulacy, Jack Kirby, Roy Krenkel, Alex Nino, Bruce Timm, Boris Vallejo and Basil Wolverton, among others, so you might want to check "Astounding Art" out if you are a fan of any of these creators!

Details for this opening are:

Date: Thursday, February 5, 2009
Time:  5:00pm - 7:00pm
Location: Illustration House, 110 West 25th St., Manhattan
Contact Info - Phone: 212-966-9444

Note: I believe the exhibition runs from February 3rd thru March 2nd. Please check with the gallery for hours and days they are open for this exhibition.

For more information on Golden, Texeira, Scott, their bookings and commissions, contact: evaink@aol.com

 

For those of you that are new to our blog today, we have an ongoing online 'Comic Con and Pop Culture Convention' ourselves here at "Make It So Marketing Inc.", what with our daily blog posts,  and new listings of items for sale in our online eBay Featured Store

Thanks for reading this blog post today, and please join us again for more!  BTW, besides blogging, we have over 479 Reviews that Tina and I have placed in our eBay Reviews Section. Just click here to see our latest reviews!

Would you believe that our Blog has greeted its' 323,000th visitor yesterday??   Thanks again to all of YOU reading our current and archived blog posts!
 
~ Michael (and Tina)
        
Click Here to see our World !             

Note From Make It So Marketing:

To the left is a photo of Michael and Tina at the 2007 SDCC - San Diego Comic Convention International. Click that photo to see 'Our World'!
                 
Each comic / comics book. Graphic Novels or magazine in our eBay Featured Store is individually graded by Michael, inventoried, priced, bagged and boarded, before being listed for sale!    
               
We attend several  Pop Culture Conventions and Comic Cons during the year to replenish our comic books and other pop culture inventory for resale!  
               
If you don't see what you are looking for, feel free to email us a 'want list' and if in stock, we'll place it in our eBay Featured Store 'Just for You' to purchase!

 

Now Celebrating the 10th Year On The Web!

"Hammering Out the Web
For You Since May 12th, 1998!"

Click Here to see our Reviews on Comics, TPBs, Graphic Novels, & DVDs! 

Note: If you work in the comic book industry or other pop culture productions, you are welcome to email us press releases, news items, and updates that you feel would be of interest to our blog readers. Including YOUR own works!

To mail printed items to us for review, send to:

Make It So Marketing Inc
PO Box 130653
Carlsbad, CA 92013

   
     

 

Thank You For Being One Of This Blog's

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All images and characters within this blog post are copyright and trademark their respective owners.

 

If you are a Facebook member and want to join my Facebook Network, feel free to send a 'friend request' to 'Michael D Hamersky'.

 


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Thursday, January 29, 2009
It's... Lone Justice !
Mood:  caffeinated
Topic: Comic Books - New

 

 

Click here to see our current listings of Graphic Novels, Comics, Magazines, and other Pop Culture Items, some by Mark Wheatley!

 

   

"Lone Justice: Crash"

By Robert Tinnell & Mark Wheatley

 

A Graphic Novel Online To View For FREE!

Click Here to see our current listed Comics, Books, and Graphic Novels, some by Mark Wheatley!  Mark Wheatley, (as pictured at left), has informed me that his graphic novel, created with Robert Tinnell...  Is currently being published online for our blog readers to read for Free! 

The video at the above right of this blog post is just a short introduction to Mark & Robert's  LONE JUSTICE: CRASH!  project. Mark calls the video a "Clutch Cargo style animation for my new graphic novel"!

Mark also calls his new project "a 'sideways' sequel to our Harvey Award nominated EZ STREET".   LONE JUSTICE: CRASH! is a new graphic novel by Robert Tinnell and Mark Wheatley.  Our blog readers can read it for FREE at www.ComicMix.com right now!

I want to thank Mark Wheatley for bringing this project to my attention. Currently there are three parts published from the graphic novel online, so be sure to view them all!

I'll be sure to follow up on Mark's progress on this graphic novel and possibly blog again about this in the future. I for one like pulp action, and when it is in illustrated form, so much the better.... 

(Please Note: A complimentary hard copy for this review was not provided by the creator as it is in online format only.)

 

For those of you that are new to our blog today, we have an ongoing online 'Comic Con and Pop Culture Convention' ourselves here at "Make It So Marketing Inc.", what with our daily blog posts,  and new listings of items for sale in our online eBay Featured Store

Thanks for reading this blog post today, and please join us again for more!  BTW, besides blogging, we have over 479 Reviews that Tina and I have placed in our eBay Reviews Section. Just click here to see our latest reviews!

Would you believe that our Blog has greeted its' 322,000th visitor this week??   Thanks again to all of YOU reading our current and archived blog posts!
 
~ Michael (and Tina)
        
Click Here to see our World !             

Note From Make It So Marketing:

To the left is a photo of Michael and Tina at the 2007 SDCC - San Diego Comic Convention International. Click that photo to see 'Our World'!
                 
Each comic / comics book. Graphic Novels or magazine in our eBay Featured Store is individually graded by Michael, inventoried, priced, bagged and boarded, before being listed for sale!    
               
We attend several  Pop Culture Conventions and Comic Cons during the year to replenish our comic books and other pop culture inventory for resale!  
               
If you don't see what you are looking for, feel free to email us a 'want list' and if in stock, we'll place it in our eBay Featured Store 'Just for You' to purchase!

 

Now Celebrating the 10th Year On The Web!

"Hammering Out the Web
For You Since May 12th, 1998!"

Click Here to see our Reviews on Comics, TPBs, Graphic Novels, & DVDs! 

Note: If you work in the comic book industry or other pop culture productions, you are welcome to email us press releases, news items, and updates that you feel would be of interest to our blog readers. Including YOUR own works!

To mail printed items to us for review, send to:

Make It So Marketing Inc
PO Box 130653
Carlsbad, CA 92013

   
     

 

Thank You For Being One Of This Blog's

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All images and characters within this blog post are copyright and trademark their respective owners.

 

If you are a Facebook member and want to join my Facebook Network, feel free to send a 'friend request' to 'Michael D Hamersky'.

 


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